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5.8 – 5.10 So Ben didn’t become evil because he was traumatized by… - moonspinner
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5.8 – 5.10
So Ben didn’t become evil because he was traumatized by abuse and internalized all his father’s hatred but because he was healed by the Temple of Evil? It may just be me but the trauma/internalized hatred made a better story.


5.11 Whatever Happened, Happened

Dear JJ and co, you don’t pass the Bechdel Test if your female lead (from your grossly disproportionate gender ratioed cast) constantly engages in conversations with her ex-boyfriend/flame/crush’s ex/current-girlfriends about: said boyfriend, adopted male child, child version of future male villain.


5.12 Dead is Dead

Are we supposed to feel sorry for Ben because he keeps getting distracted from murder by his proclivity towards stealing little children? Because it’s not working.


5.13 Some Like It Hoth

How did Miles get his chin piercings out? Is it just me or do we hear JJ’s feelings about Star Wars being uttered from the lips of Hurley? Because considering how much of nu!Trek was ripped from Star Wars (Death-Starred!Vulcan, farmboy!James Pike) and how everything else plain didn’t make sense, it’s clear which movie he would have preferred to re-boot.


5.14 The Variable

Well, it’s a nice change to see an evil mother. I just wish she had more agency.

(By the way – most contrived death scene ever. Faraday goes into the Hostiles’ camp brandishing a gun and threatening their immortal leader. My only surprise was that he wasn’t taken out sooner.)

So Eloise Hawkins raised her son so that he could end up in the Island and be shot by her. And she keeps his journal and hence knows the future. (There are still some things I wonder how she knows, particularly in Desmond’s S3 flashbacks, so I’m hoping there’s yet more to be revealed about her powers.)

But why does she do this? To keep the space-time continuum intact? Because it’s inevitable and she might as well keep her son at a distance all his life because no matter what she does, he’ll still end up on that Island and die? I hope it’s more than just fanatic devotion to the Island/Balance of Time/whatever and she really has some personal/political stake in killing off her son. It’s a running theme in Lost – parents (previously just fathers) sacrificing their children for the Island-god, but the Lost writers forget that the whole point of the Abraham/Isaac story was that in the end, Isaac didn’t have to die. Even the fate of Iphigenia is widely undecided.

SAWYER: You still have my back, don’t you?
JULIET: Do you have mine?

*sighs* I liked them.

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sistermagpie From: sistermagpie Date: July 7th, 2009 02:42 pm (UTC) (Link)
I like to think Ben's earlier trauma had to be part of it. I mean, being dipped in a vat of evil is just not something I can really get behind. He's still got his issues. He's got to.

I don't understand what Eloise was doing either.

And ::sigh:: is right about Sawyer/Juliet.
moonspinner From: moonspinner Date: July 8th, 2009 08:43 am (UTC) (Link)
being dipped in a vat of evil

LOL! Now that I would love to see. Your explanation certainly makes a lot more sense. Personally I think the whole Temple/innocence-losing ritual is the writers trying to explain away why Ben has no memory of the lostaways. I will admit that I'm miffed at the Jossing of my theory that Ben's crush on Juliet was because he actually remembered her from before.)


I don't understand what Eloise was doing either.

I think she was cooler when she was just Mysterious White-Haired Old Lady.


And ::sigh:: is right about Sawyer/Juliet.

Double sigh. They were so cute!!! And this will be the second guy that Juliet is losing to the same woman. Well, at least she still has Ben... :p
sistermagpie From: sistermagpie Date: July 8th, 2009 02:26 pm (UTC) (Link)
I totally thought that about Ben and Juliet too, about his crushing on her. It's really strange if he can't remember them at all.
moonspinner From: moonspinner Date: July 8th, 2009 03:02 pm (UTC) (Link)
Well maybe his memory of the lostaways will be impaired in some way but not completely deleted. So he can keep some vague memories of a doctor to whom his '03- '05 Juliet has a remarkable resemblance to, without ever really realizing that they are the same person?
frostbit_sky From: frostbit_sky Date: July 8th, 2009 03:45 am (UTC) (Link)
like sistermagpie said I too still think Ben's father issues were a big part of it.
I mean just the way Ben killed his father shows how much those issues effected him.

I will say one good thing about Kate. At least she came back to the island not because of a Sawyer or Jack, but because she wants to find Claire and reunite her with Aaron. Finally!

I shipped Sawyer/Juliet this season.
moonspinner From: moonspinner Date: July 8th, 2009 08:39 am (UTC) (Link)
I mean just the way Ben killed his father shows how much those issues effected him.

Yes, I forgot that. I think this scenario makes a lot better sense than the "he will lose his innocence (and his memory, how convenient!)" one that we got from that episode.


Yeah, I'm happy that Kate said she went back for Claire. Am I certain that she did? I don't know.


I shipped Sawyer/Juliet this season.

Me, too. *sighs*
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