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Goya's Ghost

Has anyone watched this film?  What did you think of it?

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indiefic From: indiefic Date: July 31st, 2007 03:48 pm (UTC) (Link)
It's on my Netflix list, but I haven't watched it yet. The only thing I've heard about it was that Natalie Portman was unhappy with some of the body double nudity in it.
moonspinner From: moonspinner Date: August 1st, 2007 12:48 pm (UTC) (Link)
What bothered her - the fact that it was too much, too little, or too unflattering? :p

What's Netflix?
indiefic From: indiefic Date: August 1st, 2007 01:33 pm (UTC) (Link)
As far as I understand it, her issue with the body double nudity was simply that it wasn't publicized and that the producers really wanted to give the impression that it was her.

Ah, Netflix. It's mail order DVD rental.
moonspinner From: moonspinner Date: August 1st, 2007 02:18 pm (UTC) (Link)
I don't think she should be too upset about that. Action movies aren't advertised with an aside that the derring-do stunts were not really performed by the lead actors. I think the same rules probably apply for risque scenes. If she didn't want to be thought to be portrayed as nude in a movie, she shouldn't have signed up for the role.
geo4real From: geo4real Date: July 31st, 2007 05:01 pm (UTC) (Link)
I have to admit that I'm disinclined to go see it. It takes a really compelling reason for me to see a filmn that dwells in loving detail on torture, and reviews like this one:

http://www.cinematical.com/2007/07/28/review-goyas-ghosts/

have done little to persuade me to make an exception.

If you have a different take, I'd love to hear it.
moonspinner From: moonspinner Date: August 1st, 2007 12:46 pm (UTC) (Link)
A new icon! Nice. :)

Well, I haven't watched it myself so unfortunately or fortunately I cannot persuade you to change your decision I don't like the idea of torture either, even if it is central to the plot and non-gratuitous. I am a happy person audience. *g*

Half of the online reviews I've come across seem to disparage the film while the other half praises it so ... I'm still undecided. :( Perhaps I'll just watch it with someone and ask the person to tell me when to close my eyes. :p
selenak From: selenak Date: July 31st, 2007 06:33 pm (UTC) (Link)
I saw it last year and wrote a review, here:

http://selenak.livejournal.com/259773.html
moonspinner From: moonspinner Date: August 1st, 2007 12:51 pm (UTC) (Link)
I just finished reading it and you've definitely made me both more curious about the story. You said it's not something you'll watch twice, do you think it's worthwhile buying the DVD or should I just wait for it to air on cable?

This part of your review really pulled the heartstrings:

And it doesn't offer much hope for political changes; the restoration at the end, courtesy of Wellington, is presented as no better than either of the two regimes that came before. The only hope the movie does offer is in the personal: Ynez, in her madness, finding someone to care for, and Goya continuing to depict and follow, in vain or not. I don't think I'll watch it again any time soon, but I certainly found it worth seeing.

It all sounds so bleak. A film like that could either be hated simply because it was so well made.
selenak From: selenak Date: August 1st, 2007 01:17 pm (UTC) (Link)
I don't know about your budget, of course, or when it will be broadcast on tv, but right now, I'd think it's worth buying the DVD. If anyone ever says Natalie Portman can't act, this allows for a quick and stunning demonstration of the contrary.
moonspinner From: moonspinner Date: August 1st, 2007 02:15 pm (UTC) (Link)
Well that'll be preaching to the choir because I think she did a great job as Padme in the SW prequels. I think I'll sit this one out until it airs on TV. As fascinating as it sounds, I have a feeling that I'll regard it much the same way as I do Shawshank Redemption (as a stunning masterpiece that doesn't bear watching twice) --- and that film had a happy ending! :p
atanone From: atanone Date: July 31st, 2007 07:22 pm (UTC) (Link)
I still did not :) but I surely will,when I¨ll get the chance..I think it will be great :) I love Forman's movies and Stellan Skagsgard ;)
moonspinner From: moonspinner Date: August 1st, 2007 12:48 pm (UTC) (Link)
Let me know what you think of it when you do. So far, online opinions have been mixed.

Looks at icon. Oh dear, are you a Ginny fan? !!
atanone From: atanone Date: August 1st, 2007 09:57 pm (UTC) (Link)
I will :)
I'm her fan,of course :) since I saw her in the Chamber of Secrets :) and I'm happy I guessed 50% right,cause when they talked about who would be good for Harry I was for Ginny or Luna
moonspinner From: moonspinner Date: August 2nd, 2007 01:49 pm (UTC) (Link)
Well I thought Luna would have been Great for Harry and I wonder if Rowling didn't pair them up because she brought in the character so late in the game. If Ginny had had half of Luna's connection with Harry in the books, I'd have bought the relationship.



Sorry for ranting *g* I guess I feel a little passionate about this topic.
atanone From: atanone Date: August 2nd, 2007 03:13 pm (UTC) (Link)
I love HP rantings ;)
I'm so happy about how they showed Luna in the 5th movie..she¨s much more profound there than in the book and not so odd...and I think she would be a wonderful girlfriend for Neville..I think she would respect him and all his clumsy habbits..and he wouldn't mind she¨s a bit "different"..
moonspinner From: moonspinner Date: August 2nd, 2007 03:38 pm (UTC) (Link)

I love ranting too!

Luna would be perfect with anyone. She's amazing. Ginny - no, just no. I think somewhere between Book 4 & 5, Voldemort killed the real Ginny, and Perma-Polyjuiced an underling and planted her in the Weasley house. It explains both the personality change and the new found bitchiness. *g*
atanone From: atanone Date: August 2nd, 2007 04:21 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: I love ranting too!

I think she just grew up..and though she still loved Harry,she got new selfconfidence...and..who knows what all she wrote down in Raddle's book ;)..she says in bokk 6 to Harry she never gave him up,but Hermione adviced her to show not and to be more "herself"..it was a very wise advice..I myself got a similar one once..and I never won that guy,but it helped me to come through and forget by finding another reasons to live
moonspinner From: moonspinner Date: August 3rd, 2007 08:02 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: I love ranting too!

Mmm… I’d believe that if there had been even the slightest indication that Ginny was this popular, athletic girl when no-one was watching. If Ginny had perhaps once won a Chudley Cannons T-shirt during Harry’s summers with the Weasleys or if she’d had a crowd of friends over for the holidays. Instead, the closest we get to Gininy’s love for Quidditch is her falling asleep after the World Cup and we never see her hang with anyone until Book 5 when she suddenly became the 3rd triplet. :p
atanone From: atanone Date: August 3rd, 2007 09:35 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: I love ranting too!

to realize that you not only "may" but "CAN" do what the others do may come in a split of a second :) ..may be she just didn't trust herself enough..or may be JKR just looked out for someone unexpected :) ...I was for Luna*grins*
moonspinner From: moonspinner Date: August 3rd, 2007 04:21 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: I love ranting too!

Luna rocked. *sigh*
atanone From: atanone Date: August 3rd, 2007 04:57 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: I love ranting too!

yes..she reminds me of my schoolmate..she always wore strange stuff,lol:)but she was very honest and a true friend
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