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I’m back from a very long weekend (Fri-Mon) and it’s great to be able… - moonspinner
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I’m back from a very long weekend (Fri-Mon) and it’s great to be able to get online. I scribbled a few words into ‘Living A Lie’ so a new chapter might be propping up in that ‘verse sometime soon.


It seems to be a Series of Memorable Reviews for me. Here’s what a kind reviewer left on Mortal Instruments, reposted here for your viewing pleasure:

Tani
2007-09-29
ch 2, anon.

I find your lack of linear story telling disturbing. Heh. Seriously though, you're a good writer with interesting ideas but having read TAGD and it's sequel (as much as you've got done), it would be super to read a story that didn't jump around and have multiple storylines set in different times and/or planes of existence. I'm a college graduate, in my 40's, well read, and I write fics (in a different fandom). I mention all this because I want you to know I'm neither uneducated or inexperienced in the world of reading/writing when I say even with all that I find your plots complicated, unnecessarily so even. It's as if you're trying too hard to be clever about it and it doesn't work as well as you think. I realize I'm in the minority, but this is my opinion and I'm expressing it. I was so pleased to read the start of this story and have it play out with a prologue and then a straight beginning. But when I read your comment about your plan to once again go in a non-linear fashion, I groaned. Sorry.



I really don’t know what to make out of this. From what the writer said, she/he has been reading my stories for quite a while but I checked through the reviews/alerts/favorites and all other ff.net stats and there’s no record of anyone by the user name of ‘Tani’ or anything similar to that. So I guess ‘Tani’ is a long-time lurker who finally got fed up with my pretentiousness and decided to do something about it.

Current Mood: amused amused

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r0ck3tsci3ntist From: r0ck3tsci3ntist Date: October 2nd, 2007 11:59 am (UTC) (Link)
Hey Hun, make of it what it is - one person's opinion. I think it's nice that they were honest, which takes a certain amount of guts, but don't get hung up. Many people love linear writing - that's why it's so popular. :)

What you are doing is experimental and the amazing thing about it is that you've done it so well that many people are willing to do the work to follow along. Most people do not want to work at all when they read because fiction is an escape for them. For myself, I love to be challenged - but I won't take the challenge unless it's worth it. Yours is worth it and I say experiment all you can - it's the best way to learn.

And as far as my credentials as compared to the reviewer. I too am a mature individual with muliple collage degrees and a reading IQ above the 99% percentile of those tested in the United States. Not that it matters. :p
r0ck3tsci3ntist From: r0ck3tsci3ntist Date: October 2nd, 2007 12:00 pm (UTC) (Link)
btw - sorry I'm behine on reading. I'm working on a few projects that I need to finish right away.
indiefic From: indiefic Date: October 2nd, 2007 02:12 pm (UTC) (Link)
Everything else aside, the fact that they left an anonymous review means they're a punk and it's my biggest peeve with ff.net.

She's entitled to her opinion, though I personally feel the fact that she completely omitted any identifying information makes her argument that she's neither "uneducated nor inexperienced" pointless.

Your storytelling is bold and it demands a lot, especially from you as a writer, but also from the reader. Readers have to engage their brains when they read your stories and some people just don't like that. That's their prerogative, but at the same time, I think it's pretty shitty of them to hold it against you. If they don't like it, why are they reading it?

Your writing is highly stylized, but I really think the content transcends the method (which is such a rarity). It may jump from time to time and plot thread to plot thread, but each section is so self-contained and so rich it gives the overall story so much more heart and soul than a lot of pieces of similar construction could ever dream of having. I personally think your manner of storytelling completely showcases your strengths as a writer and I'm in awe of it.

Cliff notes version: fuck her.
moonspinner From: moonspinner Date: October 2nd, 2007 02:19 pm (UTC) (Link)

LOLOLOLOL! I need an icon - and an attitude - like yours.

She's entitled to her opinion, though I personally feel the fact that she completely omitted any identifying information makes her argument that she's neither "uneducated nor inexperienced" pointless.

That was my one big peeve about the review.
deaka From: deaka Date: October 2nd, 2007 02:39 pm (UTC) (Link)
Reviews like that are annoying. If the person is *that* bothered by your style, why are they reading? It's not like anyone's forcing them to, and they could easily go and find something nice and easy and 'linear' if they don't want to be challenged. And I love the way they've put their age in there, too, as though it's supporting the argument. That has what to do with anything?

moonspinner From: moonspinner Date: October 2nd, 2007 03:12 pm (UTC) (Link)
That's the funny/sad thing. I'd give her review more credence if it hadn't been anonymous. What is even more irking, the more and more I think about it, is that I write a lot of "linear" stories. Out of 31 stories posted on FF.net, only 3 - Mirror, Kaleidoscope and Mortal Instruments - are non-linear. If she liked my linear stories so much you'd have thought she would have given them postive reviews! :p As it is, the only stories that have been provoking enough to get a response out of her are the non-linear ones. What kind of message is that? ::rolls eyes::
atanone From: atanone Date: October 2nd, 2007 03:10 pm (UTC) (Link)
I think to take this as an one-person view is a good advice..anything about art is a personal-view-thing..what I call "art" may to someone else seem like a fake and what most of reviewers call art may seem a fake to me..it's about if it speaks to me and if I like it..some like Picasso,I don't..some say Tolkien is boring,I like his books-where then the truth is?
moonspinner From: moonspinner Date: October 2nd, 2007 03:17 pm (UTC) (Link)
Well it's a quandary. She's entitled to her opinion and of course, I really don't expect everyone to like my stories. What bugs me though are two major issues:

1, She left what was essentially an anonymous review (she says she has an account on ff.net but she didn't leave a signed review, nor did she leave a 'real' name or an email address). So although she left a lot of 'credentials' trying to claim her opinion was worth something, there's very little difference between her and your average 'Dis story sks' troll.

2, She claims to be fed up with my non-linear stories but out of 31 of my fan fiction on ff.net, only 3 are actually non-linear. She's never left any feedback on any of the other 28 - in fact, this is the first time ever I'm hearing from her on any of my stories. So although she prefers the linear stories, she didn't care enough about them to leave a positive feedback. I really don't understand that. Isn't it more effective to praise the stories you do like and encourage the writer to write those kinds of stories, than to bash on the ones you don't like? It's not like I'm writing to please her.
fialleril From: fialleril Date: October 3rd, 2007 02:10 am (UTC) (Link)
*snickers* Eh, I saw that comment. Had a good laugh at it, actually. Maybe that's callous of me, but... pfft.

It's as if you're trying too hard to be clever about it and it doesn't work as well as you think.

Pish posh. Or maybe it's as if you're writing the story as it comes to you, and because it works better that way. And really, who says that real life is linear?

We Westerners really need to get over such bizarre ideas. ;) Life is all about the blending and inter-flowing of times, really.
moonspinner From: moonspinner Date: October 3rd, 2007 07:03 am (UTC) (Link)
And really, who says that real life is linear?

Oooh, that's what I like about you. Just when I think I'm totally nuts, you remind me that I'm not alone. *g*

It wasn't callous of you to have laughed at all. It is amusing and I ought to have seen the humour in it - she has so many 'credentials' but she can't even leave a signed review - but I was already sensitive about the stupid story. Now, if she had left that kind of feedback on any other tale, I'd have laughed her into the ocean. *g* But everyone has really bolstered my spirits about this and I'm grateful.
laariii From: laariii Date: October 3rd, 2007 06:40 am (UTC) (Link)
"I'm a college graduate, in my 40's, well read, and I write fics (in a different fandom). I mention all this because I want you to know I'm neither uneducated or inexperienced in the world of reading/writing"

Pfft! One of the worst novels i have ever read was by a university lecturer.


moonspinner From: moonspinner Date: October 3rd, 2007 06:59 am (UTC) (Link)
lol! You certainly put things in perspective right there. ::hugs::
From: bobill Date: October 4th, 2007 12:02 am (UTC) (Link)
Yeah I agree with the comments that the age and the experience of a writer mean nothing to me.

In the end, writing is a passion, and you write what you like to write. If you get a real kick out of writing nonlinear fics, which I feel you do, 1) that in itself is enough to justify yourself and 2) it really shows in the quality of your story.

Also, there's a very rare number of people willing to be long-time lurkers to stories they dislike. However, the number of people willing to lurk for a guilty pleasure increases dramatically. Most likely she wants to tell you that your writing isn't what she expected an "experienced" writer to be like, but she doesn't really seem displeased enough to stop reading.

Erm, yeah, in conclusion, write what you like and screw the rest.
moonspinner From: moonspinner Date: October 4th, 2007 06:32 am (UTC) (Link)
Yeah I agree with the comments that the age and the experience of a writer mean nothing to me.
Or they'd mean a great deal more if she didn't need to hide under anonymity. That pretty much killed her credibility.

Erm, yeah, in conclusion, write what you like and screw the rest.
LOL! Thanks! ::hugs::
knight_ander From: knight_ander Date: October 4th, 2007 01:42 am (UTC) (Link)
Maybe the reader/lurker really likes your work, but much prefers the linear style over a non-linear style. You're good at both, but I think she's sayng that you're doing the non-linear style too much, and it is taking away some of the enjoyment in reading your stories.
moonspinner From: moonspinner Date: October 4th, 2007 06:30 am (UTC) (Link)
Maybe the reader/lurker really likes your work, but much prefers the linear style over a non-linear style.

That's probably true but she would have made a more effective case if she had commented on the linear ones (with something like "I like this. You should write more in this style") and not just drive-by bashed on the ones she didn't like.
vanimy From: vanimy Date: October 6th, 2007 10:02 pm (UTC) (Link)
That review was... interesting. I think this person was simply frustrated because she didn't understand the whole thing. She felt insulted because she didn't follow the whole story and so she latched onto you... ;)

Don't worry about your story... This is just one review, coming from a frustrated person, I believe.

Ps: I would love for you to write happy A/P. Heck, I've been thinking about it too... :P
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